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New Horizons v15.0427 ENG v2.4 Bug Reports

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3.) Shop Item "Banner of the Dead": missing "the", instead

What exactly is wrong here? I don't understand...

Sorry, got it now, didn't look at your screenshot.
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Patch 2.47 now released, implementing all latest fixes, except for the similar ratman hunger icons and the Alvari reward of 3 ritual scrolls, which are all game engine issues that most probably also exist in the Russian version.
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... Alvari reward of 3 ritual scrolls, which are all game engine issues that most probably also exist in the Russian version.

Confirmed - same issue in Russian release. PM sent to Jazz Wink .
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I find it somewhat depressing that there are only 4-5 people posting to this thread Sad
Is the user base of the English version really that small?
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I find it somewhat depressing that there are only 4-5 people posting to this thread Sad
Is the user base of the English version really that small?
Regards.

Activities at the forum Russian-speaking players are not much more. Many just play and do not write.

P.S. I am sorry for my "Google-translator" English. Rolling Eyes
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От твоей руки падёт.
И останется один
В чистом поле – паладин!
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I find it somewhat depressing that there are only 4-5 people posting to this thread Sad
Is the user base of the English version really that small?
Regards.

Activities at the forum Russian-speaking players are not much more. Many just play and do not write.

I haven't had the time for it, but I stumbled upon something interesting a while back, and it might rekindle some interest in the game. I guess many gamers are changing to mobile, so this might help.

I found a promising Android app called Exagear Strategies, with which one can play PC games on Android smartphones and tablets.
It's free to try for 3 days and then you'll have to buy the most suitable and properly working control interface to constinue playing, but that costs just a few £ or $. I think the one called Helium should work on Eador. This app was developed in Russia, so Jazz, you could probably find a Russian versoin somewhere. Anyone up for trying it out on their phone or tablet and seeing if it works as expected? Smile
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Improvements for 2.47

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... Alvari reward of 3 ritual scrolls, which are all game engine issues that most probably also exist in the Russian version.

Confirmed - same issue in Russian release. PM sent to Jazz Wink .


Just reveived feedback from Jazz:

Laughing
Check the availabe outer buildings. Their drawings are given as a reward.
Outer_buildings.var:
Code: /43 Name: Жертвенный алтарь;

Problem: English version says "Receive 3 Sacrifical Ritual Scrolls"
Image https://www.dropbox.com/s/foyn3i3pghgwsgp/Alvari%20Reward.pdf?dl=0

1.) Solution: I suggest replacing with "Receive 3 Sacrifical Altar buildings" or "Receive building plans for 3 Sacrifical Altars" to avoid confusion for future players Smile .

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I find it somewhat depressing that there are only 4-5 people posting to this thread Sad
Is the user base of the English version really that small?
Regards.

Activities at the forum Russian-speaking players are not much more. Many just play and do not write.
P.S. I am sorry for my "Google-translator" English. Rolling Eyes

The Russian forums are much more active Wink
I count 17 unique participants on the last page alone of the bugs thread...

Your English is easy to understand. Thanks for monitoring the English forums, especially if you are not comfortable with the language.

By the way, when do you hope to release fix02?
Кстати, когда вы надеюсь выпустить fix02?

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I looked more closely at the "Kill a similar looking bandit and slaughter some lambs." dialog in entry /733
[EDIT] I was wrong about this Answer being inappropriate for dialog entry 734.

I suggest changing the text in the two dialogs to either:
Behead a resembling bandit and butcher a few lambs.
or
Behead a look-alike and butcher a few lambs.
(Answers have to fit within ~52 characters.)

Regards.

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Sat, you forgot to change this back:

Text/Inner_Build.txt
241. Gaming House
-#Increases gold income by 5~. Opens a casino in the capital.#
+#Increases gold income by 1~. Opens a casino in the capital.#

I have this personal modification from the previous release:

Text/Skill.txt
Код:
 /26 Pathfinding
 #Pathfinding gives the hero and his army a knowledge of the countryside. Speeds up the global map movement of the army.
 
-Lvl 1: Forest Knowledge +1
-Lvl 2: Hills Knowledge +1
-Lvl 3: Swamp Knowledge +1, Mobility +1
+Lvl 1:  Forest Knowledge +1
+Lvl 2:   Hills Knowledge +1
+Lvl 3:   Swamp Knowledge +1, Mobility +1
 Lvl 4: Terrain Knowledge +3
 Lvl 5: Terrain Knowledge +4, Mobility +1#

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Jazz: do you understand this bug report in English, or do you want me to try to phrase it in Russian?

Very bad, almost no. And sometimes I can not answer at all.
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There are people on this forum understanding English well enough whilst using Russian as main language. So feel free to communicate in English in the way you like. We may have troubles answering 'cause lack of practice, but it should not be a major problem.
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Кстати, когда вы надеюсь выпустить fix02?

Nice try. I really appreciate this. I always think how hard it is to challenge such complex grammar as Russian has. It is like trying to speak Chinese.
[you should use plural with вы end future tense in this case]

So let's build international community of Eador.
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Кстати, когда вы надеюсь выпустить fix02?

Nice try. I really appreciate this. I always think how hard it is to challenge such complex grammar as Russian has. It is like trying to speak Chinese.
[you should use plural with вы end future tense in this case]

So let's build international community of Eador.

I'm very sorry to disappoint you, but I know only a single word in Russian: "нет" Wink
(oh and "пусто" from staring too long at var files, hehe)
All the rest comes from Google Translate and PROMT (hence the bad grammar).

Sadly, Satshanti (the lead translator for the English version, who has done an amazing job, much much higher quality than I could ever have done) is about to "retire" from his position (unless the appeal of this great game pulls him in for one more version!) As for myself, I have discussed with Kettarienne my frustration about the project. As a programmer, my main interest would be tinkering with the core/basic functions of the game, but I understand that this is not possible, because access to the source code is not an option.

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that this is not possible, because access to the source code is not an option

It turns out that The Creator wrote whole game on for himself and he feels very shy of showing it to community.
I can't tell about legal issues since the game has official publisher, but Adrageron granted access to source code to some third party people like NH developers.
I don't know how it actually is, but it seems that source code is some sort of spaghetti-code and making changes to it is very painful even for Adrageron. It seems very similar to reverse-engineering.
About the idea to rewrite game from scratch he answered me that it is better idea to just make another game but not copying existing one. And I agree.
So it is very controversial thing what programmers should do with Eador.
However some people do believe that adding networking code will bring new life to game. It is very unlikely that Adrageron will add it.
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About the idea to rewrite game from scratch he answered me that it is better idea to just make another game but not copying existing one. And I agree.
So it is very controversial thing what programmers should do with Eador.
However some people do believe that adding networking code will bring new life to game. It is very unlikely that Adrageron will add it.

As far as I understand, Alexey Bokulev has definitively moved on from Eador.
He's been working on "Gremlins, Inc" for several years now.
http://sergeiklimov.biz/
http://charlieoscar.biz/en/
(Sergei Klimov worked at Snowbird, who did the Eador remake, MotBW)
So I agree with you that Adrageron is unlikely to work on Eador Smile

I don't agree with you that it is pointless to rewrite the game from scratch. (In fact, isn't that what Snowbird did?)
I don't have any game design experience, but I'm thinking it would be an interesting summer project (and quite the learning experience) to reverse-engineer New Horizons.
(Snowbird added some interesting elements to the game, like back-stabbing.)

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I don't agree with you that it is pointless to rewrite the game from scratch. (In fact, isn't that what Snowbird did?)
I don't have any game design experience, but I'm thinking it would be an interesting summer project (and quite the learning experience) to reverse-engineer New Horizons.
(Snowbird added some interesting elements to the game, like back-stabbing.)

Ok. Snowbirds did rewrite the game from scratch. How much time they spent? Several years and still fixing bugs?
Without any game design experience it looks even funnier.
Playing with something like game resources and binaries looks like a good plan, but when you have responsibility for result it is time to think better before catching on.
Whatever I have already got the source code from Alexey himself and I'm going to have closer look on it. Briefly I can say that it is not so bad as Adrageron thinks about it, but for example AI part have hardcoded IDs in it. I'm not sure but it looks like nesting if-then-else's with ability id's in condition expressions.

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Improvement suggestions for 2.48
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1.) see http://eador.com/B2/viewtopic.php?p=244433#244433

2.) Incorrect Druid description: Please replace "Stunning Shot" with "Entangling Shot".

3.) "Entangling Shot" description: multiple translation issues, maybe: The unit hit by "Entangling Shot" gets entangled ....

Image: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bqvuo3yvvbj9mno/Entangling%20Shot.pdf?dl=0
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Sat, you forgot to change this back:

Text/Inner_Build.txt
241. Gaming House
-#Increases gold income by 5~. Opens a casino in the capital.#
+#Increases gold income by 1~. Opens a casino in the capital.#

I thought 5 was the correct amount. But I guess you're right. If it's a bug in the original, that should be checked.
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I have this personal modification from the previous release:

Text/Skill.txt
Код:
 /26 Pathfinding
 #Pathfinding gives the hero and his army a knowledge of the countryside. Speeds up the global map movement of the army.
 
-Lvl 1: Forest Knowledge +1
-Lvl 2: Hills Knowledge +1
-Lvl 3: Swamp Knowledge +1, Mobility +1
+Lvl 1:  Forest Knowledge +1
+Lvl 2:   Hills Knowledge +1
+Lvl 3:   Swamp Knowledge +1, Mobility +1
 Lvl 4: Terrain Knowledge +3
 Lvl 5: Terrain Knowledge +4, Mobility +1#

Regards.

I've changed it for now, but it will not be implemented next time, because it's impossible to enter spaces at the start of a database entry, which are segmented by dots, colons and semicolons.
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Patch 2.48 now released.
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Sat, you forgot to change this back:

Text/Inner_Build.txt
241. Gaming House
-#Increases gold income by 5~. Opens a casino in the capital.#
+#Increases gold income by 1~. Opens a casino in the capital.#

I thought 5 was the correct amount. But I guess you're right. If it's a bug in the original, that should be checked.

It's both, in a way. The Gaming House provides a 1% increase, and the Casino brings 5 gold per turn.
The 1% boost is negligible on small maps.

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