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New Horizons v14.1228 ENG v2.2 Bug Reports

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This is the thread to report all errors and bugs for the English v2.2 release of New Horizons mod v14.1228.

Use this thread only for errors that affect gameplay, or when text displayed somewhere in the game is either wrong or not displaying properly.

Thank you...

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I spotted these minor typos.

dialog.var:1082:
Answer4: Всего три? Idiots! I need at least five!;#####

=> some Russian text remains

dialog.var:4541:
Text: #The dwarves decide to take their usual food, drinks, and jewelry to the underground people. Тhe latter show great interest in the curiosities and offer copper, gemstones, and other minerals in exchange.#

=> The letter "T" in "Тhe latter" is not the Latin T, but the Cyrillic Te (0xd2 in CP1251).

campaign_dialog.var:8047:
Yet while the demons are chasing the remaining defenders of Eador, new races gradually inhabit more and more of the world. Some begin to fight for the most fertile lands and the richest deposits of natural resources. The few surviving Ancients are building a mighty fortified city. They know for sure that Chaos will strike at them once more…#

=> I changed the ellipsis character "…" (0x85) to "..." in my version (I'm aiming for pure ASCII text)

journal.txt:25:
Yet while the demons are chasing the remaining defenders of Eador, new races gradually inhabit more and more of the world. Some begin to fight for the most fertile lands and the richest deposits of natural resources. Others manage to maintain peace with their neighbors. The few surviving Ancients are building a mighty fortified city. They know for sure that Chaos will strike at them once more…#

=> Another ellipsis character

Diplomacy/Player6.txt:56:
Text: #Many battles have come and gone, many soldiers have fallen. Don't you think it's time for us to make peace, %s? IвЂ™m sure that both of our states will benefit if we cease our warfare.#

=> Invalid UTF-8 apostrophe (e2 80 99) in "I'm sure"

Inner_Build.txt:994:
Allows heroes to purchase the following items (only one of each): Boots of Speed, Offender’s Mask, Alvari Jacket.

=> Weird apostrophe (0x92) in "Offender's Mask"

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However, there is a bigger issue. These files:

encounter.var
event.var
guard.var

are not in sync with Russian version 14.1228
Perhaps they are from a pre-release version?

Код:

--- ru/var/encounter.var 2015-01-01 22:18:25.755933516 +0100
+++ en/var/encounter.var 2014-09-13 10:02:26.000000000 +0200
@@ -2497,12 +2497,7 @@
Gold: 1
Power: -3000
Param1: 0
-Param2: 0
-
-Index: 4
-Power: 2
-Param1: 1
-Param2: 300;
+Param2: 0;

/97 Переговоры с гномами (союз)
Type: 0
@@ -10596,7 +10591,7 @@
Answer1: 421
Answer2: 425
Answer3: 426
-Answer4: 429;
+Answer4: 428;

*Effects*:
Index: 4
--- ru/var/event.var 2015-01-01 22:18:25.759933507 +0100
+++ en/var/event.var 2014-09-15 00:17:50.000000000 +0200
@@ -15579,7 +15579,7 @@
*Answers*:
Answer1: 13
Answer2: 0
-Answer3: 539
+Answer3: 545
Answer4: 540;

*Effects*:
@@ -25429,11 +25429,6 @@
Answer1: 0;

*Effects*:
-Attitude: 2
-Power: 1
-Param1: 0
-Param2: 0
-
Index: 26
Power: 2
Param1: -1
@@ -29601,7 +29596,7 @@

*Effects*:
Index: 4
-Power: 3
+Power: 4
Param1: 1
Param2: 200;

@@ -29942,7 +29937,7 @@
*Effects*:
Index: 8
Power: 3
-Param1: 100
+Param1: 150
Param2: 0

Index: 8
@@ -30999,11 +30994,6 @@
Answer1: 0;

*Effects*:
-Index: 6
-Power: -20
-Param1: 0
-Param2: 0
-
Index: 11
Power: 1091
Param1: 1092
@@ -33274,6 +33264,11 @@
Index: 8
Power: 29
Param1: 393
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 17
+Power: 1170
+Param1: 0
Param2: 0;

/1171 Продажа яйца мантикоры, золото
@@ -33380,6 +33375,11 @@
Index: 8
Power: 29
Param1: 395
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 17
+Power: 1174
+Param1: 0
Param2: 0;

/1175 Продажа икры слизня, золото
@@ -33486,6 +33486,11 @@
Index: 8
Power: 29
Param1: 394
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 17
+Power: 1178
+Param1: 0
Param2: 0;

/1179 Продажа яйца гидры, золото
@@ -33592,6 +33597,11 @@
Index: 8
Power: 29
Param1: 396
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 17
+Power: 1182
+Param1: 0
Param2: 0;

/1183 Продажа яйца феникса, золото
@@ -34539,6 +34549,11 @@
Answer3: 0;

*Effects*:
+Index: 0
+Power: 0
+Param1: 0
+Param2: 0
+
Index: 4
Power: 1
Param1: 3
@@ -34994,6 +35009,11 @@
Index: 8
Power: 29
Param1: 406
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 17
+Power: 1234
+Param1: 0
Param2: 0;

/1235 Продажа заготовки голема, наруч Краба
@@ -35100,6 +35120,11 @@
Index: 8
Power: 29
Param1: 405
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 17
+Power: 1238
+Param1: 0
Param2: 0;

/1239 Продажа жёлудя древочеловека, кристаллы
@@ -36132,6 +36157,11 @@
Param1: -1
Param2: 0

+Index: 17
+Power: 1274
+Param1: 0
+Param2: 0
+
Index: 8
Power: 8
Param1: 4
@@ -36239,12 +36269,7 @@
Index: 40
Power: 3
Param1: 1
-Param2: 1
-
-Index: 17
-Power: 1274
-Param1: 0
-Param2: 0;
+Param2: 1;

/1278 (Лавка кожевника - главное)
Type: 1
@@ -36399,6 +36424,11 @@
Param1: -1
Param2: 0

+Index: 17
+Power: 1282
+Param1: 0
+Param2: 0
+
Index: 8
Power: 8
Param1: 3
@@ -36502,12 +36532,7 @@
Index: 40
Power: -1
Param1: 2
-Param2: 1
-
-Index: 17
-Power: 1282
-Param1: 0
-Param2: 0;
+Param2: 1;

/1286 (Лавка волшебника - главное)
Type: 0
@@ -36539,6 +36564,11 @@
Param1: -1
Param2: 0

+Index: 17
+Power: 1286
+Param1: 0
+Param2: 0
+
Index: 8
Power: 8
Param1: 2
@@ -36632,12 +36662,7 @@
Index: 40
Power: 4
Param1: 3
-Param2: 2
-
-Index: 17
-Power: 1286
-Param1: 0
-Param2: 0;
+Param2: 2;

/1290 Налёт альваров
Type: -1
@@ -37485,8 +37510,13 @@
Answer2: 0;

*Effects*:
-Index: 0
-Power: 0
+Index: 8
+Power: 3
+Param1: 500
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 8
+Power: 11
Param1: 0
Param2: 0;

@@ -46524,6 +46554,11 @@
Index: 8
Power: 29
Param1: 447
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 17
+Power: 1648
+Param1: 0
Param2: 0;

/1649 Продажа икры болотной стрекозы, золото
@@ -49021,7 +49056,7 @@
Index: 4
Power: 3
Param1: 1
-Param2: 100
+Param2: 150

Index: 24
Power: 25
@@ -50412,6 +50447,11 @@
Index: 8
Power: 11
Param1: 0
+Param2: 0
+
+Index: 4
+Power: 3
+Param1: 3
Param2: 0;

/1788 Атака монстров, разорили провинцию
--- ru/var/guard.var 2014-11-12 08:50:58.000000000 +0100
+++ en/var/guard.var 2014-09-13 10:18:02.000000000 +0200
@@ -334,7 +334,7 @@
Unit3: 109, 1, 1, 0;
LootPoss: 11
MaxLoot: 1
-Power: 2
+Power: 1
Item1: 21, 1
Item2: 41, 1
Item3: 55, 1;
@@ -348,7 +348,7 @@
Unit4: 73, 1, 1, 0;
LootPoss: 14
MaxLoot: 1
-Power: 4
+Power: 3
Item1: 22, 1
Item2: 74, 1
Item3: 87, 1;
@@ -5758,7 +5758,7 @@
Unit3: 37, 6, 1, 3
Unit4: 38, 6, 1, 2
Unit5: 95, 5, 2, 2
-Unit6: 56, 3, 1, 0
+Unit6: 56, 3, 1, 1
Unit7: 254, 5, 1, 0;
LootPoss: 11
MaxLoot: 1

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Last one (for now, hehe)

If you could convince your editor not to insert a BOM into the following files, that would be great Wink

(The goal being to minimize the differences with the original version, to ease error-checking.)

Код:

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Boon947 писал(а):

I spotted these minor typos.

I've corrected all listed issues, some of which would have been invisible to the game player, but yes, why not make it absolutely consistent.

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However, there is a bigger issue. These files:
encounter.var
event.var
guard.var
are not in sync with Russian version 14.1228
Perhaps they are from a pre-release version?

No, that's not the reason. I don't understand how it happened, but I do know at which stage. I wanted to save a lot of time by only putting the files that had changed through the translation process. I must have missed these three for some reason. Indeed an important issue, so thanks a lot for spotting that.

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If you could convince your editor not to insert a BOM into the following files, that would be great Wink
(The goal being to minimize the differences with the original version, to ease error-checking.)

Not visible in game of course, but I value your error checking and if we can make that easier, why not do that? These were still some remnants from the initial translation attempts. I have removed all BOM's.

I will implement all of the changes made in patch 2.21, which I'll release today.

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I will implement all of the changes made in patch 2.21, which I'll release today.

Sweet. Thanks again for all your hard work, by the way!
A few remaining (minor) typos: extraneous question marks.

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A few remaining (minor) typos: extraneous question marks.

Thanks Boon. These aren't exactly typo's, because I typed them in correctly. Smile

They are some remaining glitches due to the initial experiments with proper character encoding. The problem lies in the fact that the translation software should be fed UTF-8 with BOM, which I'll then have to export as Windows 2251 again. I didn't know that in the beginning, so as a result there are obviously still some faulty terms stored in the database. I thought I had caught them all already, but I guess not. I'll correct that and implement the changes in the next patch.

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Boon947 писал(а):

A few remaining (minor) typos: extraneous question marks.

Thanks Boon. These aren't exactly typo's, because I typed them in correctly. Smile

They are some remaining glitches due to the initial experiments with proper character encoding.

Do you mean your software inserted question marks? (These are not place-holders for other characters, they are actual question marks.)

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The problem lies in the fact that the translation software should be fed UTF-8 with BOM, which I'll then have to export as Windows 2251 again.

AFAIU, BOM is for multi-byte encodings (UTF-16 and UTF-32). It serves no purpose for UTF-8, as there is no ambiguity (endianness) to resolve.
As far as CP1251, I'm considering making the files "ASCII clean". In that case, there would be no conversion required.
All that is needed is to change « and » to " (the former are not ASCII, the latter is).
What do you think? (Aesthetically speaking)

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I didn't know that in the beginning, so as a result there are obviously still some faulty terms stored in the database. I thought I had caught them all already, but I guess not. I'll correct that and implement the changes in the next patch.

When do you expect to publish that patch? (I think I'll base my first release on it.)
By the way, when you just update your message in the download thread, it doesn't update the posting dates. You should add a note that a new version is available (maybe after deleting the previous such note if you don't want to pollute the thread. Or I can do it for you if you'd like.)

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Boon947 писал(а):

Satshanti писал(а):

Boon947 писал(а):

A few remaining (minor) typos: extraneous question marks.

Thanks Boon. These aren't exactly typo's, because I typed them in correctly. Smile

They are some remaining glitches due to the initial experiments with proper character encoding.

Do you mean your software inserted question marks? (These are not place-holders for other characters, they are actual question marks.)

To be honest, I don't know exactly how or why these question marks appear. I know it has something to do with the up- and down conversion to a different character encoding.

Boon947 писал(а):

Satshanti писал(а):

The problem lies in the fact that the translation software should be fed UTF-8 with BOM, which I'll then have to export as Windows 2251 again.

Again, I don't know exactly, but the translation software needs UTF-8 and with some files it only recognized it as such with a BOM present. This particular software is known for its occasional strange behaviour. Smile

And I had thought about changing all « and » to ", but that's not just a matter of find and replace. I'll have to implement the changes throughout the database and that unfortunately requires a lot of manual work, and I didn't think it was worth it.

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When do you expect to publish that patch? (I think I'll base my first release on it.)

Probably today, but have been really busy, so can't promise...

Boon947 писал(а):

By the way, when you just update your message in the download thread, it doesn't update the posting dates. You should add a note that a new version is available (maybe after deleting the previous such note if you don't want to pollute the thread. Or I can do it for you if you'd like.)

Yes, I always add a new post to the thread, which I then immediately delete, so subscribers should get a notification when there's a new patch.

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I've discovered a bug: when right-clicking on a Wolfrider, and then right-clicking on the "Switch Ammo" ability, no window pops up and the game freezes. The only way out is to end the program in Task Manager and then restart it. This does lead to the reversions counter increasing by one. I don't think this is a translation issue. Could someone look into this? Kettarienne, Boon?

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Satshanti писал(а):

I've discovered a bug: when right-clicking on a Wolfrider, and then right-clicking on the "Switch Ammo" ability, no window pops up and the game freezes. The only way out is to end the program in Task Manager and then restart it. This does lead to the reversions counter increasing by one. I don't think this is a translation issue. Could someone look into this? Kettarienne, Boon?

Can you share the link for save-files? Probably, I'll see it on Russian version and check, will the bug stay in game. And, "switch ammo" should be work right. but of course this is not definitely truth.

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UPD:
Some reason for this was find (but rarely happens) and Jazz is working on fixing.

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Reason for this was found (but rarely happens) and Jazz is working on fixing.

Will he publish a new executable, or update the var files?

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Boon947 писал(а):

Максим Некромант писал(а):

Reason for this was found (but rarely happens) and Jazz is working on fixing.

Will he publish a new executable, or update the var files?

I don't know this, but as I think it is because of exe file. Jazz says that it is because of not correct indexation in some happens.

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Will he publish a new executable, or update the var files?

Will be done a new executable file. But first we will collect more information about other possible bugs.
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От твоей руки падёт.
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Jazz: you saw this bug report from Bavarian Kid, yes?
http://eador.com/B2/viewtopic.php?p=227057#227057
(Obviously, I could help if you would let me...)

Sat: province_name.var, province #536
Name: Говяжкин луг;
Name: Goviaskin meadow;

Lookup Говяж кин луг. I suggest "Cattle Meadow", or "Ox (Oxen?) Meadow".

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Your translation probably right. I can't say it clearly because it's not easy to understand, is it from cattle or beef, or it is just a some joke's word.
But if translate by meaning, your translation is better.
Thank you for your job, it's very good, that we have so good tester from our foreigner friends!

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I found a bug in one of the dialogs:

I forgot to make a screenshot of the initial screen, but I think it was about an adventurer killing a monster, which then leaves the spiders the monster preyed upon to spread. The answers (but not the text) on that initial screen are the same as on this screen:

Choosing to turn to a specialist leads to the second screen

and I didn't want to hire anyone and wanted to "let them deal with it themselves", but clicking the yellow option leads to

and clicking the yellow option again leads back to the previous screen.

The only way out is killing the deputee, but then it leads to

and the yellow option again leads to the other two screens, so it's a circular loop you can only get out of by executing the deputee and then saying you did everything you could. It is actually possible to kill the deputee several times like this. Smile

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The "circle of deputy's killing" is old bug, but very fun. This is a way to decrease your province's corruption to zero. But, you will pay for this by very bad mood in province.
Also, calling as "carousel of deputy's" in meaning, that you can reroll the dialog for unstoppable killing.
And, as compilation of this words, I think it won't be fix, because it has it's price and it is very fun Smile

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Sat,

I've started looking at the event cycle you described. How would you propose fixing it?

I've started a campaign. Some parts of the tutorial could be improved (grammar, mostly) but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

I don't like the word "demesne". I'm considering changing it everywhere to "capital" (~70 occurrences, most of them in Inner_Build.txt). What do you think?

In the statistics screen, the count for "Into the Past" uses is translated "Reversions" (Russian: Возвраты в прошлое).
Are these translation any better/clearer? Reloads, Rewinds, Reboots, Retries, Backward Jumps.
What do you think? (Entry 396, phrases.var -- cf. also previous entry)

Long descriptions of skills level progression do not fit on a single line. (The cutoff seems to be ~45 characters.) Ideally, I'd expand the text box, but I think we need the source for that. Another option is to shorten the descriptions (yet another is to do nothing).

For example, in Text/Skill.txt

Код:

-Level 1: Initiative +1, Ranged Defense +1, Resistance +1
-Level 2: Initiative +1, Ranged Defense +1, Defense +1
-Level 3: Initiative +1, Speed +1, Resistance +1
-Level 4: Initiative +1, Ranged Defense +1, Defense +1
-Level 5: Initiative +1, Speed +1, Resistance +1#
+L1: Init +1, Ranged Def +1, Resistance +1
+L2: Init +1, Ranged Def +1, Defense +1
+L3: Init +1, Speed +1, Resistance +1
+L4: Init +1, Ranged Def +1, Defense +1
+L5: Init +1, Speed +1, Resistance +1#

What do you think? Is it worth it? (Might do it only locally if you don't like it.)

/552
Name: Current power of the spell;

/553
Name: Current duration of the spell;

These are too long and span multiple lines.
I'll try "Spell Power" and "Spell Duration" locally.

Waiting for your comments Wink

Regards.